Stocks keep grinding higher and Wall Street remains sanguine about policy risks, however, the view of the economy from a large regional lender is more cautious. Tariffs, the CEO of Citizens Financial tells Axios, continue to have the potential to trigger an economic slowdown. Why it matters: While ignoring tariffs has been a critical part of the bull market formula, Bruce Van Saun warns investors to check their "unbridled enthusiasm." What they're saying: "The one thing that's still the wild card really is the tariffs," the bank CEO says in an interview with Axios. He adds that "the biggest risk for a bank is always the external environment, the macro." - "Unbridled enthusiasm for tariffs" could cause "more of a slowdown" if the levies creep up to what Van Saun calls "worst-case scenario" levels.
Catch up quick: The sweeping global tariffs unveiled by President Trump back in early April initially spooked investors, with the S&P 500 hitting an intraday bear market. - The back and forth on tariffs since then has left investors fairly numb to any news about them. That could be a concern if the levies do eventually cause an economic slowdown once their effects are fully realized.
Zoom in: Companies have been having "pretty good years," Van Saun says. Still, the uncertainty around the tariffs is holding back "what should be an even better environment given some of the other policies." - Reduced regulation has led to a more "pro-business orientation," Van Saun says. He adds that regulators are now going to him to ask what headwinds are getting in his way for the first time in his career.
- The tax bill also "avoided a train wreck" by continuing 2017 tax cuts.
Yes, but: While the tariff risks remain, Van Saun notes that "the good news is companies are pretty adaptable and resilient." - This sentiment echoes what many strategists are banking on: corporations that can withstand the policy risks to eke out continued earnings growth.
Friction point: Immigration policy is another concern for Van Saun. - "It's good to clamp down on illegal immigration," he says, but "a lot of the immigrants who come to this country have actually been very positive economic contributors."
- The current approach "could cause some things to slow down," he says.
Follow the money: Citizens Financial's stock has rallied 29% over the past 12 months, significantly ahead of U.S. Bancorp, PNC and other regional banks. - The outperformance follows the company's earnings growth, which could be a signal that Van Saun's focus on expansion in wealth, private banking, and across new regions is paying off for shareholders.
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