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Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn
Dianne Penn, Anthropic’s first PM, on the bets that made Claude dominant: the coding pivot, the eval-driven development loop, and what comes after coding is solved
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Dianne Penn is Head of Product for Anthropic’s AI Research and Labs teams. She joined in 2023 as Anthropic’s first technical product manager, when the entire product team was five engineers, and has since helped ship every model from Claude 2 through Fable, and helped incubate Claude Code, MCP, Skills, computer use, tool use, and reasoning. Before Anthropic, she helped build Alexa’s AI at Amazon and, before that, traded high-yield bonds at JP Morgan Chase.
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